Posts by defender of truth

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A word of advice clining to their persecutors ...

by SecretSlaveClass in

let me start off by saying i do not presume to have the answers, i am merely offering advice.. i will preface this posting with this, cutting a long story short:.

my sister was raped by a popular jw lad wh's dad happen to be a rock star elder.

in the attempt to fight him off his face was covered with scratches and it was reported to the police ( instead of rape he was sentenced on the lesser charges of sexual battery and assault) but he confessed to having violent, consentual sex.

defender of truth

Thank you for sharing that story.

"Advice for those clinging to their captors" may have worked as a title, too.

We need to bear in mind, though, that not everyone has such extreme circumstances. Some people have healthy relationships with their parents, they just don't talk much about religion and deflect any attempts at guilt or emotional pleas to return. (Or they just go to occasional meetings and 1 hour in a month field circus, and then go home and live peaceful lives with friends and family they have known for many years).

If you are under duress from abusive family members under the spell of the Org, get out from under their control ASAP. Otherwise you're going to spend your years in misery trying to placate people who don't know how to love you...

Amen to that.

On the other hand, I wonder if you would have spent your life at least partially under the mental control of the Borg, if not for your mother's abusive behaviour? If you had stayed at home, might you have got baptised at a later age due to peer pressure?

I know it may sound strange, but if you can find some small thing to be grateful to her for, like being a part of your independence and freedom from this cult, it may help you to not hate her. She will likely go to her grave miserable, you will not. Pity her, if possible.

At seventeen I left to join the military in order to get away from her and her toxic JW environment.

Early exposure to life in the real world no doubt served you well.

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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

by Calebs Airplane in

within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

defender of truth

This is the last time I'll say this.. The question wasn't worded specifically enough.

All JW's believe they are acting as God's spokesmen, every time they preach.

It wasn't a lie.

At best we seem to have an example of a GB member giving a misleading and nonspecific answer, to a nonspecific question.

Then again, asking:

"Are the Governing Body God's only channel of communication on earth today?" would, now I think about it, have produced a response like: "Well, we are certainly a part of that channel."

Can we move on to a more interesting topic:

What question would have forced Jackson to admit that the Governing Body see themselves as being the ONLY people on this earth who can interpret the Bible correctly, with God backing everything they put in print?

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Starting to get grilled by parents

by Anonymous17 in

so my parents had a meeting with me to talk about me not progressing spiritualy as i should be.

i felt like i was being interrogated in a nice way.

they want to know who i talk to and if my association at work good.

defender of truth

Read this thread too (abiblestudent posted links to his summaries of the book). A real treat for any lurkers afraid to purchase it.. ;)

www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/222735/steve-hassans-books?page=1

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Starting to get grilled by parents

by Anonymous17 in

so my parents had a meeting with me to talk about me not progressing spiritualy as i should be.

i felt like i was being interrogated in a nice way.

they want to know who i talk to and if my association at work good.

defender of truth

Consider reading Steve Hassan's books to know how to deal with them better. COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL has been re-released.

I second that suggestion. Here are some reviews:

www.freedomofmind.com/Media/bookCombattingReview.php

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Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

by defender of truth in

of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

defender of truth

The church.. has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said Anne Cossins, an associate law professor at the University of New South Wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.

Least able or willing..

I wonder if the same could apply in the UK?

www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/397800005/could-independent-inquiry-england-wales-expose-jw-orgs-child-abuse-failures-how-can-we-help?page=4#/441030005

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Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

by defender of truth in

with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

defender of truth

BTTT

Is there even one more person on here that would like to send a brief email, in order to help the Independent Inquiry to see that there are more than a few people who are concerned about the dangerous way JW's handle child abuse cases and reappoint pedophiles to positions of trust??

Please, even just a simple email asking them to investigate the Jehovah's Witnesses..

(adding a reference or link may not make a difference, but can't do any harm)

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Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

by defender of truth in

with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

defender of truth

The panel are currently considering what specific institutions will be looked into by the Inquiry.
Your suggestion that the Inquiry should look into the Jehovah's Witness religion has been logged and may be considered further.

Excellent news. I hope that others here will join us in emailing the Independent Inquiry, and ask them to investigate Jehovah's Witnesses. The more suggestions that are logged, the better!

(I mentioned the Charity commission inquiry in my most recent email.)

Please help out, people..

The ongoing Australian Royal commission exposé of their 'medieval' child abuse policies did not happen by magic..

Email:

contact@csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk

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Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

by defender of truth in

of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

defender of truth

Okay, thanks Memphis, lol. I'm quite the fool, I guess..

In my defence, it was 1am in UK, and I was simultaneously sending a massive email explaining the dangers and worldwide child abuse policies of JW's to the Independent Inquiry for Child abuse in England and Wales. Sent them every news link in UK relating to it, and the confidential items released by the ARC. Tried to tell them its the same worldwide. See what reply I get..

Here's the contact details for Warwick city councils.

Please let us know if you contact any of them, I've had enough for now and wouldn't know what to do:

www.warwickri.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=797&Itemid=39

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Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

by defender of truth in

of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

defender of truth

Medieval and bizzare is one way to describe the process.

Cruel and dangerously ignorant is another..

When the 17-year-old complained to church elders of being raped [by her father], two of her father’s friends carried out the investigation.
“Did you enjoy it?” she said she was asked. When she was forced to repeat the allegations in front of her father, he said, according to her: “You seduced me.”
www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/jehovahs-witnesses-face-child-sex-abuse-investigation-in-australia/2015/08/14/d8a58eda-406e-11e5-9561-

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Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

by defender of truth in

of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

defender of truth

MMXIV--

www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/jehovahs-witnesses-face-child-sex-abuse-investigation-in-australia/2015/08/14/d8a58eda-406e-11e5-9561-4b3dc93e3b9a_story.html

Room 215 -- I've emailed them and asked them to cover it.

Data-Dog -- why would the Council be interested? Here's the link if you want to contact them:

www.warwickdc.gov.uk/info/20595/the_council_warwick_dc/667/contact_us